IBM is still locked out of the Portuguese OOXML meeting

I just wanted to give you an update on the situation in Portugal regarding IBM‘s participation in the standards meeting to decide on the Portuguese vote on OOXML. In spite of various communications, we are still locked out and will not be allowed to participate. Microsoft will be there, as well as a special Microsoft guest, as will various Microsoft business partners, and others. But we won’t, though we would be happy to do so. Our representative could even bring his or her own chair, if that’s a problem …


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10 Responses to IBM is still locked out of the Portuguese OOXML meeting

  1. > Our representative could even bring his or her own chair, if that’s a problem …

    Oh, come on, this is Portugal, not Redmond, WA. I’m sure there are plenty of chairs left (and none being thrown).

  2. Micofrosties! says:

    This should be reported to Neelie Kroes: This whole issue of the mis-documented 6000-page fake-standard MSOOXML is too simmilar to the useless documentation handling and feet-dragging that Micofrost performed when demanded by the Competition Commissioner to give interoperability information that allowed competition; and moreover forms part of the same bully tactics to kill every viable competition to the monopoly.
    By the way, a nice penalty, and actually useful to european citizens for Micofrost continued misbehaviour, apart from the money fine, Micofrost should be obligued to publish a version of Micofrost Office 2007 with ODF as default document format. They could do it with XP, when they were forced to publish a version without Windows Media Player, despite claims on the contrary that that was a “fundamental” component Windows couldn’t do without. Well, the case here is the same: The one and only Office version allowed to be marketed in europe should be an ODF-by default one.

  3. len says:

    That is disturbing.

    What is the process/rule for locking or unlocking a meeting attendee? IOW, how does the chair formally justify that?

  4. WuMing Shi says:

    How about paying for a bigger room.

    They say they do not have enough chairs, that can be a symptom of not having enough room to house IBM. If IBM were to pay for a auditorium + state of the art sound and visual system + throwing in a banquet lunch + entertainment, I am sure they will admit you. ;-)

  5. Since the US tech press isn’t writing about this (nor about the weird situation in Chile), then I guess it will be filed under “Who cares?” Frankly, it indicates how desperately serious Microsoft is set upon gaining ISO approval.

  6. Ed Brill says:

    Rui from Portugal has posted several clarifying statements on my blog at http://www.edbrill.com/ebrill/edbrill.nsf/dx/default-and-supported-formats-in-notes-8-editors

    There’s also some interesting discussion there from Steve McGibbon and Doug Mahugh of Microsoft. One question I raised got an honest “I don’t know” answer from Mahugh, which I appreciate (though I do find it a bit curious).

  7. Zaine, you mean *this*?

    The day Chile was Bought by Microsoft

    ,—-[ Quote ]
    | Just today, a secret agreement between MS and the Chilean Government came to
    | light. In it, every citizen was sold as a potential user of a Windows Live
    | Spaces model where every SSN is linked to, overbypassing any privacy term and
    | cashing Bill some bucks. It wouldn’t be so awful to all if that agreement
    | wasn’t aprooved yet (Spanish follows).
    `—-

    http://digg.com/microsoft/The_day_Chile_was_Bought_by_Microsoft

    I am SHOCKED as well. Where is the coverage??? Digg is no credible reference.

  8. RuiSeabra says:

    WuMing Shi: There would be no need to pay for a bigger room. The organization that is responsible for the TC has an auditorium. As such, the lack of room for other entities is a completely arbitrary motive, which has no strong reason other than favoring Microsoft.

  9. WuMing Shi says:

    Rui Seabra,

    I know. I saw your unofficial minutes. To prove that I read your unofficial minutes, one reason given for not using the auditorium is it does not have the “round table” atmosphere. What a lame duck excuse. Which is better? not so good atmosphere or true representation

    Bob,

    You got the attention of Jason Matusow now (http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonmatusow/archive/2007/07/30/ecma-open-xml-and-the-portuguese-national-body.aspx)

    As my other reincarnation paraphases: “Openness must be done and seen to be done”

    I believe he is hiding behind the “all procedures followed” shield and did not address the openness issue.

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